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    I know you Turbo guys will come up with some lame comments but ......

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    Post by ThMule Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:08 pm

    You CANNOT get these sort of numbers from a turbo 6 ....FULL STOP



    DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION

    One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

    It takes just 15/ 100ths of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.

    Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second;
    a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

    A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

    With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on 20% overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

    Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

    At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F.

    Nitro methane burns yellow.. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

    Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
    This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

    Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass.
    After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F.
    The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

    If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

    In order to exceed 300 mph in 4. 5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's.
    In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

    Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

    Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
    Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

    The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

    Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.

    The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ).
    The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).

    Putting all of this into perspective:

    You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06.
    Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass.
    You have the advantage of a flying start.
    You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200
    m ph.
    The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

    The dragster launches and starts after you.
    You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you.
    He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

    Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted your 200 mph and not only caught you, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

    ... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!
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    Post by H0WL1N Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:18 pm

    Game over I reckon I know you Turbo guys will come up with some lame comments but ...... 307614 Thumbs Up
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    Post by Wotif Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:57 pm

    I Think i will sit this one out.
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    Post by H0WL1N Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:38 pm

    Watch the pickets on the fence dont give you splinters Ugy lol!
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    Post by TheOtherhalf Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:33 pm

    My vacuum cleaner goes faster than that!!!
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    Post by ThMule Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:02 am

    TheOtherhalf wrote:My vacuum cleaner goes faster than that!!!

    So does your broomstick but thats not what we are debating ..... lol!
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    Post by TheOtherhalf Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:09 am

    Meow, hiss, spit....haha...
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    Post by Wotif Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:55 am

    Ok i'm standing up now.It would look good in the supermarket car park when your picking up your groceries.....YEAH RIGHT I know you Turbo guys will come up with some lame comments but ...... 238828
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    Post by Q Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:11 pm

    Me thinks the splinter in your arse is festering Ugy.......... I know you Turbo guys will come up with some lame comments but ...... 80228
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    Post by FNTMV8 Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:48 pm

    Not sure I could afford to rebuild the engine 4 times every mile... That would take about 45 rebuilds just on the way to work each day. And then the same again on the way home as well. May be faster for me to walk me thinks....
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    Post by H0WL1N Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:05 pm

    but the point is at standard the 6 does not have the same power as an 8, just the same as a standard 8 does not have the same natural power as a 12, for example take the turbo off Ugy's car and it is the same as my standard xr6, it is only the enhancement that gives it the power I know you Turbo guys will come up with some lame comments but ...... 107667
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    Post by Wotif Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:35 pm

    Sounds like there is a twin turbo v8 on the way soon. What are ya'll going to do then aye. Say i will take it if you remove the turbo's....Yeah right

    lol!

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