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    A1GP's future in doubt at Taupo

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    Post by FJ Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:20 pm

    Taupo has only a 50-50 chance of hosting the A1GP after 2009, Taupo Motorsport Park shareholders have been told.


    At their annual meeting yesterday, shareholders were told the internationally rated track was $6 million in debt and there was no assurance the "marquee" A1GP round would be held there in 2010.

    It had previously been estimated the company owed $3 million. The track complex has hosted the A1GP and other motorsport events on land leased from Taupo District Council. Negotiations are continuing with A1GP organisers, but the company has no right of renewal when its three-year contract expires in January 2009.

    Taupo Motorsport director David Steele told the meeting it was 50-50 whether the event would be held in Taupo in 2010. A decision was expected next year.

    The $13 million track was built in 2006 in time to host the first A1GP race in January 2007. The event is estimated to be worth $20 million to the Taupo economy, attracting 70,000 spectators for three days in late January.

    Mr Steele said the cost of travelling to the southern hemisphere for one round could be too much for teams. There was also a suggestion a planned track at Hampton Downs, near Huntly, could replace Taupo as an A1GP venue.

    "It's a wonderful event putting Taupo on the world map, and the A1 people like coming down here but commercially it is better for them to go nearer Auckland where the sponsorship support is closer," Mr Steele said.

    Acting chairman John Loughlin said Taupo Motorsport needed bigger crowds to generate more income.

    "The A1GP is the marquee event for the company but it is everyday track hires that are our bread and butter that is the key to financial viability."

    A range of events including Australian-based modified street cars, jet sprints and national race championships were being considered. Mr Loughlin said the financial position was "delicate".

    Staff members were cleaning the public toilets after racedays to cut costs.

    He said four factors contributed to the loss. A public share offer had not raised as much as the company had predicted and had cost $337,000; there was a $1.3 million 'blowout' - later funded by debt - to finish the final stage of the track in time for the A1GP; depreciation was $260,000, and increased interest rates added an extra $315,000 to loan repayments.

    The biggest debt was a $5,957,000 term deposit loan from ANZ Bank.

    "The failure of the IPO was a real disappointment and a lost opportunity," Mr Loughlin said.

    "Our offer to the market did not inspire investors."
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    Post by ThMule Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:22 pm

    I for one wont loose any sleep over that. The problem with Taupo is that it is a follow the leader track with very few passing oppertunities. Your placing all depends on your qaulifying and that is boring from a spectators point of view and a drivers as well
    I would like to see the A1GP in New Zealand still so Hampton Downs would get my vote.
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    Post by FJ Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:43 am

    I heard that Hampton Downs was facing a bit of financial problems at the moment too and aren't selling out the apartments like they thought they would.
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    Post by ThMule Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:57 am

    Thats the opposite to what i heard that they were all but sold ??????? who knows?
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    Post by FNTMV8 Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:39 am

    starling wrote:The problem with Taupo is that it is a follow the leader track with very few passing oppertunities.
    I have to dissagree with you there Sam. There were plenty of passing opertunites at our track day...... when the car in front fell off the track Twisted Evil which was happening with some frequency too...
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    Post by FJ Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:31 am

    starling wrote:Thats the opposite to what i heard that they were all but sold ??????? who knows?

    Oh well.......Who the hell knows then, all I know is the answer is 42. Wink
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    Post by H0WL1N Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:41 am

    I dont understand the question? scratch
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    Post by CrazyJeff Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:26 am

    "The meaning of life, the universe and everything" is the question. From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. The answer is 42! Laughing
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    Post by H0WL1N Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:42 pm

    I still dont understand the question? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Post by ThMule Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:27 pm

    FNTMV8 wrote:
    starling wrote:The problem with Taupo is that it is a follow the leader track with very few passing oppertunities.
    I have to dissagree with you there Sam. There were plenty of passing opertunites at our track day...... when the car in front fell off the track Twisted Evil which was happening with some frequency too...

    Quite right Leon ....... but not when your in a A1GP car that is identicle spec to the other 29 A1GP cars on the track ......
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    Post by ThMule Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:29 pm

    Allshookup wrote:I still dont understand the question? Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Dont worry about it Gav ..... the Super computer, Deep Thought, took 4 million years to calculate it ...... you've only been on the case for a few days!
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    Post by Zamiam Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:11 pm

    Allshookup wrote:I still dont understand the question? Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Neither do I Gav but I'll let you in on the answer - apparently its 42
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    Post by H0WL1N Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:25 pm

    Is that positive that it is 42, its not 42.48392924858392092 or something because that could completely change the whole perplection of the question Laughing
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    Post by ThMule Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:01 am

    no ....... deep thought calculated it to exactly
    42.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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    Post by ThMule Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:15 am

    The Ultimate Answer
    A1GP's future in doubt at Taupo Dots200Some time ago a group of hyper-intelligent pan dimensional beings decided to finally answer the great question of Life, The Universe and Everything.
    To this end they built an incredibly powerful computer, Deep Thought. After the great computer programme had run (a very quick seven and a half million years) the answer was announced.
    The Ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is...
    (You're not going to like it...)
    Is...

    42


    Which suggests that what you really need to know is 'What was the Question?'.
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    Post by ThMule Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:23 am

    The Question
    A1GP's future in doubt at Taupo Dots200
    It has been shown that there is an answer to the great question of life, the universe and everything. It was computed by Deep Thought, but really didn't seem to provide , well... an answer.
    The great computer kindly pointed out that what the problem really was that no-one knew the question. Accordingly, the computer designed its successor, the
    Earth, to find the question to the ultimate answer.
    However, due to a slight
    Golgafrincham problem, and a small hooha with some Vogons the program went a bit wrong. The whole problem remains just as mysterious as it always has been, but a little more frustrating.
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    Post by FJ Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:37 am

    Thank You for that Sam. Thumbs Up drunken
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    Post by FJ Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:39 am

    Which suggests that what you really need to know is 'What was the Question?'.

    May I suggest You read My signature for that answer. Very Happy
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    Post by H0WL1N Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:29 am

    I have got it, the question is.........what is 21 + 21 Great :superGav:
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    Post by ThMule Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:36 am

    no ....sorry, it's 6 multiplied by 7 ......
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    Post by FJ Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:40 am

    Or 5 x 8 + 2.... :face:
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    Post by ThMule Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:42 am

    FJ wrote:Or 5 x 8 + 2.... :face:

    shit .... that puts a whole new spin on things
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    Post by FJ Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:52 am

    Yeah thought I would just throw that one in there to get you all thinking outside the square. Great
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    Post by CrazyJeff Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:34 am

    I heard yesterday that the whole future of A1 is in doubt as a result of the financial collapses in the US. Apparently Ferrari has only released 10 cars to teams so far. They are refusing to release anymore until the $40million they are owed so far is paid. One of the major backers is/was funded by one of the collapsed financial institutions. So I heard. Wink
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    Post by FJ Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:37 am

    Yeah I heard that on the radio the other day too, I was looking forward to seeing how they all went with the Ferrari engines. Sad

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